RULES & REGULATIONS

Joined

• started 381 topics
• posted 1,622 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by RULES & REGULATIONS

• 
  57

  WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

  lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

  after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  WT Study October 2018
  

  Consider a married couple, Philip and Mary, who had served at Bethel for nearly 25 years. Within four months, both lost their mothers and another relative in death and began caring for Mary’s father, who has dementia. 9 Philip recalls: “I thought I was coping well to a certain point, but something was missing. I came across Colossians 1:11 in a Watchtower study article. I was enduring, true, but not in the fullest sense. I needed to ‘endure fully with patience and joy.’ This verse reminded me that my joy in life is dependent, not on my circumstances, but on the effect that God’s spirit has in my life.”
  10 In response to their efforts to maintain a spiritual outlook on their situation, Jehovah blessed Philip and Mary in many ways. Soon after leaving Bethel, they both found progressive Bible students who wanted to study more than once a week. Looking back, Mary says, “They were our joy and Jehovah’s way of telling us that everything was going to be fine.”

  So, after losing both their mothers and another relative in death....caring for a father who needs special care.......... Jehovah ( with all his power ) blesses the couple with employment?better health? a new home? job skills? Nope.....Jehovah blesses them with a bi-weekly Bible study.
• 
  57

  WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

  lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

  after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Who reassigned them? Who informed them? Who made the change?

  Here is a photo (dramatized) from the WT Study October 2018!

  Look at the faces of the husband and wife who probably served at Bethel for many years and are now ex-Bethelites. Thrown out in the streets with no savings, no employment, no job skills and being told to leave everything in Jehovah's hands.

  Being told.... make the best of your situation, suckers! We, who made this decision, will have meals, a roof over our heads, and free health care.
  
  
  

  
  
• 
  57

  WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

  lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

  after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  

  WT Study October 2018

  Maintain Inner Peace Despite Changing Circumstances

  Lloyd and Alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad. After all, they had been serving at Bethel for over 25 years.

  Ryan and Juliette were informed that their assignment as temporary special pioneers had come to an end, they felt dejected.

  Osborne and Polite, a South African couple, left Bethel, they thought they would soon have part-time work and a place to live. “Unfortunately,” recounts Osborne, “secular work did not come as soon as we had hoped.” His wife, Polite, recalls: “We did not find work for three months, and we had no savings. It was a real challenge.”

  After being thrown out in the streets with no employment and no savings, How does the WTBTS spin these layoffs? Unexpected changes can lead to unexpected blessings!

  Paragraph 22 says it all!

  22 If life takes an unexpected turn —whether as a result of a change in our theocratic assignments, health problems, or new family responsibilities— be assured that Jehovah cares for you and will help you at the right time. (Heb. 4:16; 1 Pet. 5:6, 7) In the meantime, try to make the best of your situation. Draw close to your heavenly Father through prayer, and learn to leave yourself in his caring hands. In this way, you too will maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.
• 
  44

  Simon's Forum Is More Than Just a Forum!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  friends:.

  simon's forum is much more than just a forum where we come to expose the watchtower.

  it is a place that simon wanted people to be able to come to, to receive help, support, or find a compassionate listener.. this forum has exposed the watchtower more times than any forum on the net.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Thank you, Simon!

  I have found that I belong here more than any Kingdom Hall. The boredom, cliques, do more, not good enough, self-righteous, and ''am I doing enough to please Jehovah'' is off my shoulders.

  I hated myself for years by going through the motions. There were times I would drive around in my car and walk in 1 minute before the meetings started and leave 1 minute after the meetings ended because I knew I didn't belong there. I hated every minute of the meetings. It's either you are 100% in or get out since it will eat you alive.

  The Elders knew I was going through the motions just to please my family. I came up with every excuse on why I missed the meetings. Work, illness, and 100 other reasons why I wasn't at the meetings.

  One day I decided I wasn't going to any more meetings. I broke my mom's heart but it was either my physical and mental breakdown or continue to lie and suffer.

  The '' mental abuse'' the WTBTS put me through will never end. They did a great job on me. All I know is that by coming on this fabulous site I will heal and feel better. I know now that there are millions of people who lived through the same Jehovah's Witness life.
• 
  31

  The downfall of the Governing Body

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in a book i read a while back by the sociologist randall collins he says truly powerful people don't get angry because they get what they want in other ways, and he shows a picture of two runners where the one who's losing looks at the girl that passes her rather than ahead at the finish line, guess she doesn't wanna win the race after all.

  i want to apply these to the governing body and their actions, the pattern of their actions, in printing all the hateful rhetoric against people like us and why l'm pretty sure, pretty damn confident in fact, it's all downhill from here... thanks to them and them alone.. the moment you let somebody get in your head and let them stay there they beat you, they win, they establish power, we got in their heads, they know we present a threat to them, we won't shut up, we're more brazen than we used to be, we're in the news, we're on tv, we're online we're at conventions we're in the kingdom halls, hell we're just about everywhere.

  yeah, we don't have this completely down yet, sometimes we come on too strong or do something stupid, and i'm pointing the finger at myself here too, but for the most part we know how to fight this battle: we drag them into the light when they wanna hide in the dark like jackals lurking in the woods sneaking up on weak and wounded deer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  The walls of the WTBTS are being cracked but nobody is breaking down the walls.

  We have internet videos and books exposing all their lies, elders resigning, no new members besides Jehovah's Witness children, contributions dwindling, teens leaving in droves, layoffs at the WTS headquarters, pedophile lawsuits in the millions, closings of Kingdom Halls all over the world, the printing of books and magazines is barely alive, and many other things exposing and bringing the downfall of the WTBTS.

  Just like it takes a pack of Hyenas to injure and defeat a lone lion, the WTBTS is wounded but not defeated. Their billions of dollars and lawyers will keep it alive. This corporation will use all measures to stay alive.

  The 800 lbs. gorilla is the only thing that will break down the wall. ( Government intervention and a mass exodus of its faithful members)

  
  
• 
  29

  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  correction:

  Here is a prime example of how the WTBTS blames the ''messenger'' and not ''the message.'' Weak members and apostates are always to blame for them walking away.
  
• 
  29

  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Here is a prime example of how the WTBTS blaming the ''messenger'' and not ''the messenger.'' Weak members and apostates are always to blame for them walking away.

  I was a member in 1974. This statement was written in this ''Kingdom Ministry 5/1974'' ring true. Notice, the Watchtower study article that was written years later blaming its members for the 1975 fiasco.

  • 
    

    ***km5/74p.3HowAreYouUsingYourLife?***

    Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.

  • Clearly, Jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by Satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind." (Luke 17:22, 31) And, indeed, this has happened to some Christians. For years such ones longed for the day when Jehovah will put an end to this wicked world. However, when Armageddon did not occur by the time they expected, ` they became disheartened. Their confidence in the nearness of Jehovah's day of judgment faded. They slowed down in the ministry and gradually became so involved in the mundane matters of life that little time was left for spiritual matters. (Luke 8:11, 13, 14) In time, they `returned to the things behind'--how sad!
• 
  28

  26 Years Later

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the watchtower.

  back then it was the wild wild west with newsgroups being the primary sources of information.

  then came watchtower observer, freeminds, and all the other sites that followed jwd was one of the later sites.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Victor said:
  I'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the Watchtower.

  What did you find about the real history of the Watchtower, why did you look, what did you do with that information, and what process did you use to get out of the organization?
  
  
• 
  29

  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  NOVEMBER 2018 WATCHTOWER STUDY

  PARAGRAPH 5

  Still others took sides with apostates and other opposers who misrepresented our beliefs.

  As a result, some deliberately began “drawing away” from Jehovah and the congregation. (Heb. 3:12-14)

  Video showing Jehovah's Witnesses talking out both sides of their mouth when it comes to child abuse. First video is of Governing Body member Stephen Lett (one of the JW leaders) on the official JW.org website claiming the child abuse accusations are apostate lies even though the JW organization has been found guilty of not protecting children in multiple trials and have been forced to pay out tens of millions of dollars in damages. The second video comes from PBS News Hour's report on child abuse in the JW organization and features a video of Watchtower Headquarters Supervisor Richard Ashe claiming the responsibility of the JW organization is only to spiritually protect children and that physical protection is the responsibility of the secular authorities.
• 
  29

  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  RULES & REGULATIONS

  A question on a side point: What's the scandal in the Rome Bethel?

  wannaexit posted this 5 years ago about a Canadian Circuit Overseer moving to Rome about dysfunction in Rome.5 years ago

  I heard that three years ago bethel was put under the care of the Seltezr (spel) branch. Germany didin't have success.

  This year Brooklyn sent over 3 italian elders and their wifes to set things straight. One is from New York and the other two are Canadians. The committee members have been put aside and these three are running the show.

  The blog proclamatore consapevole started out as a group of three who are trying to bring reform from the inside. They feel that the organization has been overrun by burocratic self serving individuals and that the rot reaches the top. However they still believe that this organization is the "truth".

  There is a poster here by the name LaFrancia who is involved in the group.